Repossession companies: how to hire the worst of the worst.
So you need to hire a repossession company? That's GREAT, and I'm here to help. But in order to hire the worst of the worst, the most despicable of the despicable, and last but not least, the most
villainous of the villains, you must follow these few simple rules.
1. Criminals-That's right, these disgusting human beings can be useful for something other than filling prisons. Repo men! Be absolutely sure that at least the owner of the company you plan to do
business with is a convicted felon. But if you can, try to hire a company that has all criminals working for it - preferably most with outstanding warrants. This has the added bonus of the possibility
that, although they started running your accounts, they certainly will not be able to finish, due to their need to "pay their debt to society". Some of the other benefits will include:
a. Lying. You will be amazed and thrilled with the continuous fabrications and phenomenal creativity of the employees. From the owner all they way to the lowly field agent.
After a while you will honestly (a little pun) believe that they lie just for the shear "sport of it."
b. Thievery. I don't want to get carried away with the benefits of this one. But if it isn't nailed down (and even if it is) it will be gone. From the debtor's purse or
wallet to that car stereo just installed, the complaints will flow into your office like a tsunami. With a little luck, most of these will turn into lawsuits. One of the best of the worst of the
worst, a company that exemplifies all of these rules (and who shall go nameless), would regularly wait until they had repossessed a truck of the same make and model as their one of their own repo
trucks, park it in their shop, remove the engine and transmission, and use it to replace the worn ones from the repo truck. They would then send the repossessed vehicle to auction, with of course the
worn out engine and transmission.
c. Grand Theft Auto. This one really goes under the heading of thievery, but when the company you've chosen really starts to go down the tube, so will your repos. Grand
Theft Auto is special; when your customer calls in to pay off his loan or has made up his late payments and wants his car back, nothing (I mean NOTHING) is more thrilling than trying to find a
pleasant way of telling him that his car is in little pieces in Tijuana, Mexico.
2. Liars. This was also covered under Criminals, but let's face it, you cannot overestimate the negative impact of a good liar. Also, you don't have to be a criminal to
be constantly lying. Imagine your surprise when you find out that the repo company you hired has not been running several accounts that you have had out with them for a month at all! First of all the
accounts are not being picked up, but even better they could even be billing you for some work that has never been done! This is going to look great for your bottom line. Another good one that you can
look forward to is a car that they picked up a few days ago has significant damage to it. But the repo company says that that is the way it was picked up. You come to find out a year later that that
very car was being towed along a state highway, broke loose from the tow truck, and hit a light pole. The only way you found out about that was the bill that you just received from the State. Just
think of the excitement this will cause! Not to mention all the problems you will have to look forward to with personal property, storage lot security, updates, and of course auction delivery dates.
So you thought your life was boring?
3. Lazy. This is by far the most entertaining of the personality traits that you want to be absolutely sure your new repo man or company has. This won't necessarily get
you into any legal trouble, but it will send you to an early grave. But who wants to live forever, right? The stress induced by laziness will be worth its weight in gold. When you ask seven times for
an update or wonder why the address that is two miles from the repo company's storage lot, has not been run yet, not only will you consider a career change but you may need a vacation just to keep the
homicidal thoughts to a minimum.
4. Violent. This is an oldie but a goodie. Within this increasingly litigious society, having a company or individual representing you in the field that is potentially
violent is a sure-fired way of getting the blood flowing (figuratively and literally). Just imagine the potential for lawsuits. You don't even have to use your imagination, for it will come to pass as
surely as the sun rises in the morning. With the right repo company handling all of your repos, you are virtually guaranteed a violent confrontation - even with something minor, such as a debtor
asking to clean out their vehicle prior to it being towed away. The phone calls to your office the next day will really make your day - not only from the debtor, but the police, prosecuting attorney,
and the media!
5. Armed. When your new repo company has its first violent confrontation, it would be really good if they were armed. This not only escalates a simple bloody nose into
murder, but has the potential of perhaps killing someone who was just nearby. An actual innocent bystander! But as a friend of mine once said, "there are no such things as an innocent bystanders." (I
think he was joking.) If you thought the calls from the police, prosecuting attorney and the media were bad before, just wait until there is a murder. Your phone will literally ring right off the
hook.
These are just a few of the rules one should adhere to when choosing the worst of the worst (if that's really what you want). But keep in mind: if you just follow these
five rules, you will guarantee yourself years of anguish, pain, anger, humiliation, and best of all, enormous financial losses.
On the other hand if you really want to avoid all that unpleasantness, just do the opposite! These few rules are great (for doing the opposite), I reverse them when
hiring employees for my own company, and so should you!!
-Pete Conrad
Pete Conrad is the owner of Judgement Recovery Company and experienced repossessor. He also holds an Airline Transport Pilot's License (ATP), has owned a flight school, and flown in the Alaskan Bush.
If you would like to know more about repossessions visit Pete online for your Free Report at: www.judgementrecoveryco.com. Or call 866-486-0899 Toll Free.
This article appeared in Feb 2007 World of Special Finance Magazine
Avoiding Lawsuits When Hiring a Repossession Companies
So you're a collection agent, or maybe a bank officer, and you have some repossessions you need to get done. Easy, right? Just open the phone book and call up the repo company with the biggest
advertisement. Anyone can do a repo, right? Well, that can be part of the problem; in many states, anyone can do repossession, without any special licensing or bonding requirements. It is true that a
of repossessions are simple: find the car, tow it away (or even just drive it away if you've obtained a key). However, there are plenty of legal pitfalls involved in making sure each and every
recovery is done lawfully. The repossession company's job is to make sure they are legal at all times, but the reality is that you can get yourself into trouble if the company you hire does something
wrong when acting on your behalf.
The good news is that there a few simple steps you can take to screen repossession companies and select a reputable operator who will do the job right. You want to find out information in three
important areas: Policies, Insurance, and Ownership.
Policies
When interviewing a prospective repo agency, ask them about their safety and hiring policies. You want to find out as much as you can about what the rules are, but don't forget also to ask how they
enforce the rules. A company that can show you written policies is always a promising prospect, but you'll at least want to find out where the company stands in three key areas.
1. Guns. I can't say it any more simply or emphatically: do not hire a company that permits their employees to carry firearms on a recovery action. Period. Guns equal trouble, and they do not keep the
employee safer. Harry Dean Stanton said it best in the movie "Repo Man" - when someone asks his character why he doesn't carry a gun - "Only an idiot gets killed for a car."
2. Background Checks. Does your prospective repo company do background checks on their employees? It's important in this business that you're not sending someone with a
criminal record out into the field to recover property. This is especially true if the person in question has a history of theft or violence. There is nothing worse than a repo agent who is likely to
start a fight rather than avoid one.
3. Driving record. Ask your prospective company what they know about the driving records of their agents. An employee with a shaky driving record is not necessarily as
bad as one who carries a gun or has a criminal history, but you would still run some risk of having property wrecked and people injured by a poor driver.
Insurance
Find out who insures your prospective repossessor (it should go without saying that if a company you're looking doesn't have insurance, run, do not walk, in the opposite direction). Call the insurance
company and ask for the repo company's loss run over the last three year period. Obviously, the more insurance claims the company makes, the less likely you are to want to do business with them. This
is an area where you might need to make a judgement call. Even the best company will occasionally have a loss, and bigger companies will have more losses because they do many more recoveries. A rule
of thumb I recommend is to avoid a company that has more than two or three claims in the past three years. For larger, multi-state companies, make that two or three for each state where the company
operates. If possible, also try to find out the nature, or at least the dollar amount, of the losses. A company that has several claims for the occasional ding or dent might be a better bet than one
that somehow manages to destroy an entire automobile once in a while during the recovery process.
Owner
Find out who owns the repossession company, and how long that person has been in the repossession business. This can be tricky if you don't get all the details. You may be dealing with a company that
has been in business for twenty years, but that company could have just been sold last year to a new owner who has no experience in the business. The way I like to figure things, this qualifies as
being in business one year, not twenty. I recommend hiring a company that has been in business at least three years, and has a track record of success and safety that you can check. And, just as you
want to avoid a company that has employees with criminal records, make sure you check into the owner of the company. Avoid doing business with a company whose owner has had past trouble with the law.
Checking policies, insurance, and ownership for a company you're considering hiring does not have to be complicated, and is mostly a matter of common sense and doing your homework. However, there is
still one additional trap you can fall into if you're not careful: Forwarders. Forwarders are companies that advertise repossession services, often covering a large geographical area, but then farm
out the actual recovery work to individual local repo companies. Forwarders can be reputable, but there is an extra layer of management between you and the person actually doing the recovery, and that
can cause problems. You've checked the Forwarder and they have a comprehensive policy to avoid lawsuits, but what do you know about the local company the Forwarder will hire to do your recovery? Does
that local company have the same policy? Does the Forwarder enforce their policy on all the companies they hire, and if so, how? Often times a Forwarder will make the recovery company they hire aware
of their policy, but do nothing at all to ensure the recovery company is in compliance. This can be almost as bad as not having the policy in the first place.
My advice is to be cautious in this area. First and foremost, make sure you understand who is doing the actual repossession work. Don't let yourself in for an unpleasant surprise when you learn,
literally by accident, that the company you hired is nothing more than a re-marketing clearinghouse. And if you do want to use a Forwarder, get them to tell you everything you need to know about the
actual company that will be physically picking up the car or other property you're trying to get back.
An ounce of due diligence can be worth its weight in gold. Don't be caught out in the cold when someone you've hired to do a potentially tricky job gets it all wrong.
Pete Conrad has been in business for 20 years. He founded and currently runs Judgement Recovery Company, a repossessor that operates in Washington State and Idaho. Prior to that, he taught flying and
founded Northway Aviation, a flight school still operating in Everett, Washington, which he ran for 10 years. Having built two companies up from nothing into large and thriving organizations, Pete now
shares his experience and advice about business by publishing articles in various journals. He resides in rural Washington State, and still holds an Airline Transport Pilot's license and his Flight
Instructor certification.
The Airplane that Repossessed the Car
by Peter Conrad from an article in Specialty Finance Magazine
This has to go
down in the history of repossessions (if there is such a thing) as
one of the strangest ways to repossess a car…
I had been
attempting to repossess a Nissan Sentra from a young man in Twisp,
an incredibly small town in central Washington. My repossession
efforts up to then were a dismal failure. It went something like
this: Went to the given address – nothing. Knocked on the door –
nothing. Went back several more times day and night –nothing.
Finally was able to catch the mother of this young man at home, and
she was…how shall I say… hard to deal with. She was one of the
rudest and surliest people I’ve met in this business, and as you may
know that’s really saying something. Needless to say, she was of
almost no assistance, the only help came in an offhanded comment
about her son living in Florida, saying, “If you want it, go get
it!”
Florida?! Well I
won’t be going down there anytime soon. We’re about as far away as
you can get without leaving the continental United States. So I gave
the account to my skip tracer to see if she could find a good
address for the lender to pursue. Off she went, checking phone
numbers, social security numbers, and relatives’ addresses, etc.
Anything she could get her hands on to locate this guy. Meanwhile,
for the next 10 days I worked on other projects until the verdict
came in. After all that work, all that she could find was an aunt’s
address in Naples and a phone number and she had left numerous trap
line messages but didn’t get any response. Some of them were quite
inventive; I know if I were a skip, I certainly would have called.
So we sent the address and phone number back to the lender for them
to reassign. Before they closed it I wanted to take one more
drive-by. Since the debtor lives in such a remote area, I decided to
combine a trip to my mother’s house with this run.
Twisp is truly a
one-horse town; the main street is Highway 20, a picturesque roadway
winding through some of the most beautiful and rugged terrain in
Washington state. Other than a few side streets, gas stations, a
city hall, a restaurant, and a general store that is all there is.
Traveling west on Highway 20, I approached the turn off to the given
address, which is on Airport Road (yes, Twisp does have a little
airport). The road winds its way around the tiny airport and then
rejoins Highway 20. Convinced that I would never find the Sentra, I
blithely followed the little road around until the address was in
sight. Were my eyes deceiving me or was that a little Nissan Sentra
in the driveway? Of course I didn’t bring any paperwork and I
couldn’t remember the license plate number. But that’s what they
make cell phones for and by some miracle mine worked way out there.
Confirming that the Sentra in the drive was the right one, I made a
quick call to one of my recovery agents, but because of the location
it took two hours for him to arrive and by then it was, of course,
gone.
After visiting
my mother for the weekend I drove back through Twisp. I could have
taken a much shorter route home, but now I was determined. No one
likes to be lied to. After being in this business long enough, most
get used to it. But not me, it still gets me going and makes me even
more determined. So back I go, but again, no Sentra. Time for a
different tactic. Who knows, maybe he does live in Florida and was
just visiting. Something in the back of my mind said no, he does
live around here. He was probably just raiding mommy’s fridge. But I
needed help, a spy, someone to drive by several times a day and let
me know when that car appeared again. So when I arrived back at the
main office, I started making phone calls. Some underpaid hard-
working person in one of the local Twisp businesses (such as they
are) would be perfect. But what I discovered after three or four
calls is that small town people tend to stick together almost no
matter how much money you offer them. They would not believe my
assurances that the debtor would not know who tipped me off, or even
what gave him away. But after eight phone calls I finally found just
the person I was looking for: a young man who would simply drive by
and call me when he spotted it. Not exactly rocket science. Of
course, I would not pay him until after the repo. He readily agreed
to a $50 dollar finder’s fee. I gave him all my phone numbers with
instructions to call as soon as he spotted the car and I sat back
and waited.
I didn’t have
long to wait; within 48 hours I got the call. The car was there and
had been for five hours! (I guess my instructions about calling the
moment he saw it were not clear enough.) Off I went. Twisp is about
a two-hour drive, so along with bringing the tow truck, I also had a
key. (I was determined to get this car!) By the time I arrived the
Sentra was gone. Dejected, I headed back to the office. First,
however, I clarified my instructions with my spy, so that I would
have more time.
Another week
went by before the Sentra showed again. Thankfully, this time my spy
called me within minutes of its appearance. Off I went. Again, by
the time I arrived the Sentra was gone. This same scenario played
out two more times before I got completely fed up! Obviously, the
debtor would go over to mommy’s house long enough to raid her
fridge, watch some TV and run for his life. Well, the lender was
getting anxious and I was getting angry. I needed to be there
faster, or at least have the debtor followed when he leaves.
Unfortunately, my spy was unwilling to go that far. Small town
America strikes again. The only way I was going to get this repo was
to get there faster.
With that in
mind, I did have one advantage that your average repossessor might
not have. I once made my living as a commercial pilot and am still
current in several types of aircraft. Best of all I could get from
my local airport to the Twisp airport in about twenty minutes. It
was worth a try. I could walk from the airport to the debtor’s house
in five minutes, either leaving my small plane or bringing a driver
to drive the car back to the storage lot. I did have a key after
all. So again I waited, worrying about the 50 things that could go
wrong with this plan. Mechanical problems, (any airplane I could
afford isn’t the greatest but once it starts, it’s fine) weather,
etc. Then the call came in – Sunday at 7:00 pm. My field agent,
John, met me at the airport and 10 minutes later we were airborne.
John was extremely nervous having never been in a small plane
before; he said it felt like we were in a motorized box kite. A
description not altogether inaccurate. The entire 20-minute flight
John gripped the edge of his seat keeping his eyes clamped shut. I
think he was praying that the Sentra would be there so that he
wouldn’t have to fly back with me.
Upon landing, a
process much more frightening than take off, John kept his eyes
firmly shut. We taxied over to an unused portion of the airport and
started the short hike to the location of the Sentra. It was dark by
the time we arrived, so our approach went unnoticed. We could see
the dark shape of our Sentra as we made our way stealthily down the
drive.
“I hope this
works,” John said holding up the key.
“Hurry up!” I
replied anxiously.
Slipping the key
into the lock, John slid the door open just far enough to slip in.
As I climbed in on the unlocked passenger side, the outside porch
light came on. With one fluid motion the car came to life and began
to roar down the gravel drive. Amazingly, I observed that John
drives better in reverse than forward. However, John didn’t have to
display his reverse driving skills too long as we arrived at the
street. Whipping the car around we tore down the street and to
relative safety.
“I don’t think
he’ll chase us,” I observed.
“Why?”
“Because there
were no other cars in the driveway.”
“Oh.”
At that point,
we arrived back at the airport. John dropped me off for my short
flight home and for his much longer drive back to the storage lot.
As I readied my plane for the flight, I wondered if an aircraft had
ever been used in this way before. Then I started thinking maybe
next time…a helicopter.
Peter Conrad is an experienced repossessor with an
Airline Transport Pilots License (ATP) who has owned a flight school
and flown in the Alaskan Bush.
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The Repo Man Who Ate the CD Collection
by Peter Conrad from an article in Specialty Finance Magazine
On a Monday
morning in January at 2:00 a.m., Adam, a field agent for Acme
Adjustors (a repossession agency) is about to repossess a Ford
Thunderbird. A Ford Thunderbird whose owner has not made a payment,
nor returned any phone calls in 90 days.
Adam is
approaching a small ranch style house; the last reported address for
the owner. There parked in the driveway is the Thunderbird! Adam’s
heart skips a beat and he mutters, “It doesn’t get any better than
this.” After a quick check of the VIN he silently tows it out from
under a huge willow tree to the street in the early morning light.
Next stop, the storage yard.
Upon reaching
Acme’s storage yard Adam opens the unlocked driver’s door, and
begins his condition report. Mileage, engine, tires, and paint
condition are all carefully noted. Personal property inventory:
pens, pocket knife, miscellaneous papers, keys, infant’s car seat,
and a large CD case. All the items are carefully noted and placed in
a storage locker in the corner of the lot. Looking at his watch, it
was 3:30 a.m. There was still enough time left for a few more runs
before the morning rush hour. Locking the gate Adam hurries down the
dusty access road and back on the streets in pursuit of his quarry.
About 15 minutes
later Paul, another field agent for Acme Adjustors, was the next to
arrive at the dusty storage lot. He had worked at Acme for only a
month. He is proud of the way he outsmarted the owner Bill when he
was hired. Like all of the field agents Bill hires he was supposed
to do a background check on Paul. But Bill’s business had been
booming over the last few months and the agents were overworked
covering territories that were too large. Bill needed to hire a new
field agent. When along came Paul, a seemingly mild mannered
experienced agent, who had run his own repossession company for
years, and on top of all that came highly recommended by Bill’s
mother-in-law, who worked closely with Paul’s wife Cheryl. So Bill
put the background check on hold and put Paul to work right away.
Bill’s gut
instinct has served him well in the past. The employees of Acme are
all hardworking, honest and likeable people. But that was all about
to change. Paul smiled inwardly at Bill’s foolishness, “If he had
seen what I did tonight to the owner of the Expedition, ole Bill
would’ve had a stroke…” He sped down the lot access road. “But I got
the truck, it doesn’t matter what I have to do just as long as I get
the truck.” Another smile slowly spread across his face as he
savagely brought the truck to a stop with gravel flying in front of
the locked gate. Throwing the truck into park he jumped out and
opened the gate. Two minutes later after maneuvering the Expedition
into an unused corner of the lot, Paul begins his condition report.
“Let’s see” Paul mutters to himself, “General condition, good, a few
scratches though, heh…heh… most from when I dragged it through the
bushes, but other than that, pretty good shape. Tires, interior,
personal property…nope, none there, the car owner really jumped when
I told him if he didn’t get it now he would never get it, because I
would put it in a pile and burn it!”
Upon completing
the condition report, Paul opened the storage shed that Acme used to
store personal property, forms, and completed reports for the next
business day. Placing the form on the desk he glanced around the
well-lit interior. “Well, well what do we have here?” He eyed the
new bag of personal property left by Adam 25 minutes ago. Carefully
opening it, he dug through the contents. “Worthless junk,” Paul said
in disgust, as he dug further. “Ahh…CDs! Perfect for my collection.”
A few minutes later after climbing back into his truck, Paul picked
a CD at random, put it into the player and turned up the volume.
Throwing the truck into gear he sped down the access road and out
into the morning.
The CD
collection was not noticed missing until the debtor attempted to
redeem his personal property. Bill was shocked that someone could
have climbed over his eight foot fence with three strands of barbed
wire, and doesn’t leave any other sign of forced entry. But in the
back of his mind he thought it might be someone with access. This
plus a stolen winch – all since Paul had been hired made Bill very
suspicious. The suspicions eventually lead to Paul’s forgotten
background check. That check revealed past convictions for burglary,
auto theft, assault, and fraud. Later that day Paul was again
unemployed, but for Bill the damage had been done. The debtor
complained about his CDs. Bill paid for their replacement, but the
complaint was still filed with the lender, damaging Acme Adjustor’s
reputation. Not to mention the $2,000 to replace the winch, all in
less than two weeks. Plus the several breeches of the peace during
Paul’s repossession process.
Bill got off
easy; he runs a good, honest business, but he had made a mistake.
There are many repossession agencies out there that not only have
shady types working for them, but are owned by these shady types.
Stolen personal property, extra mileage on collateral, and damaged
collateral are just a few of the headaches that the wrong
repossession agency can create for the lender. Beware of who you
hire and watch for a pattern of complaints. Too many indicates a
pattern of abuse.
Peter Conrad is the owner of the Judgment Recovery
Company.
The Saturday Airplane Repo
by Peter Conrad from an article in Professional Repossessor Magazine
It was one of those
rare spring days in western Washington-sunny & warm, almost 80
degrees, and its even a Saturday. I look out across the tie down
area trying to spot Greg my former chief pilot and close friend.
"Where is
he? I thought, I'm the one who's always late." I mutter to no one
particular.
Greg and I became good friends during the years that I started and
operated my flight training school. During those years I discovered
that to be a friend of his you have to be very tolerant, and have a
good sense of humor. Honestly, some of the stunts that he pulled
while he was Chief Pilot at any other flight school would have
earned him a pink slip, but in mine I would just shake my head, and
kept right on muttering to myself. A habit that has never left me.
Then Greg emerges from the airport restaurant, strutting across the
tarmac towards me, interrupting my train of thought.
Greg is a real
ladies man, it never ceases to amaze me how a person who is as wide
as he is tall can accomplish this. Long ago I noted that what he
lacks in appearance he more than makes up for in boldness, bravado,
and pure ego. Three possibly worst traits that a pilot can have. But
he is by far the best, most reliable and capable pilot that I have
ever employed, and I have had a lot of people fly for me.
"Nice of you
to show up." I comment poking him in his ample belly.
"If you'd pay me more, I might be persuaded to show up on time."
Greg retorts smiling. "Where is it."
"Over there." I say pointing at a white and blue Cessna 182. "This is
really a bad day and time to be repossessing an airplanes, you
know."
"Well, I have to work."
"What about
after work?" We have had this conversation many times. Greg works
for the city of Seattle as a painter. He would love to work as a
pilot, but he doesn't want to give up the security and benefits of
his "day job". And he jealously hoards his after work hours for his
carousing activities at the local watering holes. This other hobby
he pursues with such abandon that he has had more than one drink
thrown in his face and met "the girl of his dreams" all in the
course of one evening. I've considered replacing him with another
pilot, or doing the flying myself, but when push comes to shove
there is simply no one better for the job.
With a shrug as
a response Greg starts walking toward the parked Cessna. That's when
I first notice the SUV approaching our prey, a light blue Tahoe.
"Oh, great. Look at that, this guy is going flying!"
"Maybe,
he'll get some fuel. When he goes into pay, we can tow it off." Greg
suggests.
"Oh yea, that'll work. There's only about a hundred windows at the
cash register and the fuel pump is about 10 feet away from the
window. I'm sure he wont notice." I sarcastically retort.
"Come on, let's give it a try."
"How did you get
to live so long by making decisions like this?" I pause not really
expecting an answer. Then reconsidering "Oh well, you only live
once. At the most it will just be extremely embarrassing if he sees
us."
A few minutes
later the Cessna's engine starts and it slowly makes its way toward
the fuel pump.
"Let's get the
tug!" I urge
The aircraft
"tug" (really a glorified gold cart) was parked behind the flight
school office. This flight school I had sold years before to the
current owner, and I still am on good terms with. So he offered no
objection to the use of the tug. Breathing hard from anxiety as well
as the lengthy run across the ramp we arrived at the tug. "Let's
go!" I breathed. The battery powered tug surged forward almost
sending me over the side as Greg mashes down the accelerator.
"Sorry, I'm not checked out in this." Quips Greg
Greg must have
missed the lesson in school that taught-the shortest distance
between two points is a straight line, because were careening
drunkenly toward he fuel pumps, around hangers, planes, and the
occasional automobile. When at last we rounded the last hanger, I
fully expected to see our quarry serenely waiting to be fueled. But
noooo, there was nothing at the fuel pump; the little Cessna was
nowhere to be seen. "Where did it go?" I squeaked.
"Must've gone up, instead of getting fuel." Dan replied
"GREAT…. I guess
we'll have to wait till it gets back. I…. THERE IT IS!" In the
distance I see it again, the debtor had taxied by the pump and over
to the restaurant where it now sat. Its doors wide-open, apparently
waiting for passengers. And again, we were off, on our wobbly slow
motion pursuit. But this time the Cessna did not move. The debtor
had simply parked in front of the restaurant opened all of the doors
and walked away. Arriving Greg carefully maneuvered the tug in front
of the Cessna facing it and lowered the ramp to the ground. When the
ramp hit the ground he eased the tug forward so the nose wheel road
up on the ramp. Stepping off I climbed under the Cessna's nose and
secured a strap around the tire. Straitening, I found myself looking
at a somewhat bewildered woman.
"What are you
doing?" She asked in a deep husky voice. A voice that could only
belong to a long-time smoker.
Thinking fast,
"The airport manager asked us to move all the aircraft that were
parked here, due to the airshow." It sounded good anyway.
"Airshow?
There's no airshow this week." A tall slender man replied, seemingly
appearing out of thin air. Momentarily dumbstruck, I stare at the
man. He adds, "I own this aircraft."
'Oh S..t!' I
think to myself. "Well the airport manager asked me to move any
planes that park here." 'The manager will really have it in for me
when this gets back to him.'
That was the
moment that Greg panicked, throwing the tug into reverse he pulled
the Cessna forward, and over my foot. Well, it didn't hurt too bad
(the Cessna is not very heavy).
"Where's he
going!?" Demands the debtor, looking after his plane which is now
racing across the tarmac, miraculously Greg is not weaving drunkenly
as before.
"We'll drop it
off at the terminal building." I say as the debtor shoots me a
hostile look. "Sorry, airport rules." As I jog after Greg, I check
over my shoulder to see if angry debtor man is following, but he is
not. Gathering up his belongings he heads back to the friends car
for the short drive to the terminal building, and his Cessna.
"You ran over my
foot! Thanks!" I say accusingly. "What were you thinking?" I get no
reply as we guide the Cessna into the hanger three rows down from
the terminal building. "Well, I better call this one in." Since the
debtor is likely to call the airport office before he calls the
police (after all it was airport personnel who took his plane in the
first place) I start with the airport management first. After making
the required calls and with the Cessna secured Greg gives me a ride
back to my car As we pass the terminal building I slide down low in
the seat-like a child trying to hide from his angry father after
breaking some irreplaceable object-to avoid being recognized by the
debtor and his friend that were milling around in front of the
building, waiting for a plane that will never arrive.
-Pete Conrad is a aircraft repossessor with an Airline Transport
Pilots License (ATP) who has owned a flight school and flown in the
Alaskan Bush.
If you would like to know more about Aircraft Repossessions visit Pete
on line for your Free Report
www.judgementrecoveryco.com
"THAT MAN STOLE MY TRUCK!"
by Peter Conrad from an article in Specialty Finance Magazine
Tales of Auto and Airplane repossession with a healthy "dose" of
pure HATE.
At Judgement Recovery Company, we repossess airplanes nationwide and
we're pretty good at it. But we also repossess your garden-variety
car, boat, RV and pickup trucks in Washington State. There was a
repossession that stands out above all else in my mind as unique.
Okanogan County in Washington State is somewhat unique
in that if a person wants to escape city life and has any sort of
temptation to be gainfully employed, he would, by moving here, have a
lot of company. When I first moved here, many told me that this area is
depressed and the people living here want to work. But, what I found was
that some, not all, have no desire to work and were much better at
avoiding honest work with excuses and tall tales than actually working.
An example comes from a handy man I hired to repair various items around
the house. It took him three days to complete a small carpentry job in
my barn. Now mind you, he only worked (and billed) me for three hours
but it still took him three days!! When I asked him, "How will I get a
full days work out of you?" His reply, "By giving me one week to do it
in." Now this didn't make me mad, it simply illustrates the mindset
around these parts.
It all started as an ordinary Key Bank repossession, a 1997 Ford F150
4X4m color: green. What made it unusual (at first glance) was the
address; it DID NOT exist! My first clue was that the street that the
debtor's house was located on, (later we found out it was a trailer)
hade both his name and the co makers name as the street name.
Once again, I was forced to call upon my over-worked skip tracer to
locate Mr. Credit Bandit, or to be more precise, his street! So down she
went to the County Assessor's Office to look at their map, which as it
turns out, is a lot better than any store, bought variety. (I mean,
after all, they do have to find these people to collect taxes from
them!) After some discussion and looking at several maps, as well as
aerial photographs, she had the location about 20 miles in the hills
surrounding our hometown.
The location sounded fairly easy to find, located off state Highway 20
past the 218 mile marker, there will be a blue sign "JIMMY-ANNA" marks
the road or driveway. But, alas, no matter how many times my employee
drove up & down the main road, he could not find the sign, the road or
even the correct driveway! We went back to the Assessor's Aerial photos,
more maps and more directions. This time he found it but was unsure if
it was the correct drive. It is unmarked, had several closed cattle
gates on it, very rough & steep was the description given. Rough and
steep was an understatement, it was too much for the tow truck to
handle. (Mine at least!) So, on to plan B. Take my own four wheel truck
with a key and drive it away! Later that same afternoon, I did just that
with my field agent John with me. We began the climb up into the dry
hills of Tonasket. Our first obstacle was finding the exact location of
the road that led to this location! We had copies of every aerial photo
available, maps (hand drawn) and directions from the Assessor. We went
down (& up) several roads and asked neighbors if they knew Mr. Credit
Bandit, all to no avail. Finally, through sheer good luck or
stubbornness, we drove down one unmarked dirt road, past two closed
cattle gates and up a steep and very rough incline for several miles. We
were just about ready to turn around, when we spotted a small plastic
sign that read, "Jimmy-Anna hill ranch rd." Voila…the lost is finally
found. With some excitement and encouragement, we continued. Much later
the so-called road leveled off and we rounded a bend, and before our
eyes was the Jimmy homestead. Consisting of a dilapidated school bus,
small garden, horse pasture, fifth wheel trailer and (much relief!) a
Ford F150! Since it was the middle of the day and people around these
parts are not shy about open gunplay, I opted for the direct approach.
Knocking on the trailer door (Is that a Country Western Song?)
repeatedly, and receiving no answer, I called out thinking maybe someone
could be near with a high-powered rifle? Nope, no one answered, nor much
to my relief, fired upon me.
Well, since I couldn't get the tow truck up here, I made a key for the
unit. The F150 was in fair condition and the VIN number matched, we were
in business. The only problem was that it was filled with 55-gallon
drums of water. No well, so these pioneer types have to haul water in,
or too cheap to put in a well? I realized these barrels are going to be
a problem, he would want them back, and if they were empty, it would be
an easy matter to unload them, but they were full and each one weighed
somewhere or upward of 500 pounds? I decided to pass on that exercise! I
saw that the load was secured quite well; after all, he had made it up
here with the full barrels in tact. So I closed the tailgate, climbed in
and turned over the ignition. It fired right up; so back down the
adventurous "road" we went with John behind me going as fast as possible
under the conditions.
Arriving at the bottom of the road, we were on the home stretch of
"Jimmy-
Anna Ranch Rd.", on to the final straight that intersects the highway. I
began to accelerate, John close on my tailgate…. but to my left on a
parallel road, I noticed a Ford Explorer heading in the opposite
direction come to an abrupt stop. I observe two faces intently watching
me. "Oh, Oh," I think, "Could this be the debtor Jimmy and his
girlfriend Anna"? Well, I'd already legally repossessed the unit, but
now I just want to avoid any violence. I speed up even more, the highway
approaching rapidly. The Explore is moving now, I notice, in reverse
backing toward the highway at a high rate of speed for reverse! And dust
is billowing everywhere around them.
Now there is a dilemma! Unfortunately, I have to turn in the direction
of this parallel road they are barreling down in reverse! The other
direction is a dead-end about 15 miles out and I could visualize the
debtor in hot pursuit of me the whole 15 miles until I ran out of road!
I arrived just tense moments before the Explorer reaches the road, and
with no traffic, I dart onto the road as quickly as possible,
accelerating more with each passing second. Apparently not wishing to
damage his explorer, Jimmy stops short of the highway. Or so I thought!
Then he runs out onto the road in front of me crossways on the highway
and I was going about 50 mph at that time! Now, at this point, a
"normal" person would not run out in front of a fast moving vehicle for
any reason, after all, if he thought I was a thief why would I stop for
him? Obviously, this Credit Bandit is no normal person!
Swinging the F150 hard to the right and onto the shoulder of the road, I
missed him by about three feet, a sigh of relief and I'm on my way! John
however was not so lucky. Driving my full sized truck and being a few
seconds behind me, he was forced to stop for the Explorer blocking the
highway.
Whereupon, the driver jumps out of the Explorer, approaching John, who
has rolled up the windows and locked the doors. Mr. Credit Bandit is
screaming at him, "That man stole my truck! You have no right on my
property, No right! John rolled the driver's side window down a mere
inch, and told him "Just take it easy, your bank asked us to come out
and pick up the F150. If you have a problem with it, call Key Bank."
John spoke in a modulated voice in an effort to calm the debtor down.
The debtor exclaims, "You had no right to go up there, it was
Trespassing, no right!" John said, "Well, I don't know about that, why
don't you call your bank and see what you can work out with them?"
At this point, Jimmy's face is turning an interesting shade of red
fringed in purple, as his veins were popping out on his neck to an
unsafe limit. Every time he speaks, his words are coming out with a
squeaking quality and liberal amounts of spittle are spewing from his
lips. Quickly his words degenerate into a lengthy string of curses and
as he rounded the truck to kick at the truck door, John accelerates and
manages to pass by the enraged Jimmy, sending up a small cloud of dust
from the shoulder.
I was far enough ahead, that I could relax a little, although it is
about 20 miles back to the storage lot, I figured I would arrive without
any further problems and best of all, nobody was following me. However,
John wasn't there either. I knew John would be fine, he has handled
situation like this before with no problems. Just to be on the safe side
though, I called the local police to inform them that John was being
stopped on the highway and well off Jimmy's property. I also informed
them of the repossession so they would know it was not stolen.
Later that evening, the County Sheriff called and informed me that a
complaint had been filed. According to Jimmy, our unfriendly Credit
Bandit, I had not only hit him with his own truck, but he had several
rifles in the truck. Well, Both of those bits of information were a
surprise to me! At the time, I had just completed a personal property
affidavit with a witness. We sure didn't find any guns in the F150! I
guess Jimmy thought if you're on a roll, you might as well get out of it
all that you can. Maybe he thought the police would come out to the
storage lot if they thought there were guns in the truck.
The next day, very early, the phone calls began. The sheriff with more
complaints from Jimmy, all about his guns, hit and run and just about
everything else he could think of under the circumstances. When the
sheriff wasn't responsive to his accusations, he called our company
office, ranting and raving about his water barrels, guns and of course,
the hit and run accusation. He went on and on. We made arrangements with
the sheriff to return Jimmy's personal items from the truck including
his now empty water barrels. No guns were found anywhere. So all seemed
to have come to an end…
Tonasket is a very small town and although as a repossessor, I have a
thick skin, it still irritated me that Jimmy was out there telling folks
that I had stolen his guns and run him down with his own truck. It began
to get under my skin.
A short time later, I purchased my first personal aircraft. Now, mind
you, being in this business, I'm not exactly rolling in money, but I
managed to save for a long time, sacrificed things so I could have my
own airplane to fly from here to there during my all too rare days off.
The first day I tried to fly my used (but new to me!) airplane, it
wasn't running properly. I didn't know anyone at the Tonasket airport,
so I asked the first person I saw hanging around the airport. At these
little airports, there is always someone around. He said he didn't know
of any mechanic that worked out of Tonasket but there was a mechanic's
business card on the wall in the "pilot lounge" which is a filthy shack
about 100 yards away from where we were standing. The card read "Jimmy
Thompson Aircraft repair & restoration" Why does that name sound
familiar? Then sudden realization! Oh great, if I have this guy work on
my plane, the next flight I take will probably be my last!
Needless to say, Karma does exist, and I obviously had to find another
mechanic. The irony of this situation wasn't wasted on me.
As I was driving home my mind began to work…hmmmm…if he wasn't able to
make his car payments, would someone be looking to repossess his
airplane? After all, I do repossess those as well!!
-Pete Conrad is a aircraft repossessor with an Airline Transport Pilots
License (ATP) who has owned a flight school and flown in the Alaskan
Bush.
If you would
like to know more about Aircraft Repossessions visit Pete on line for
your Free Report
www.judgementrecoveryco.com
Mexico or Busted
My client had a
big problem.
The call came in, as
it almost always does, during late afternoon about five minutes before I
was going to leave the office. Thanks to the cell phone, of course, I
never really leave, but I still like to pretend the work day is wrapping
up when I walk out. But now I had Jerry (not his real name), a bank vice
president, on the phone. He needed my help, and naturally it wasn’t just
another KIA repossession; this time, the property to be recovered was an
airplane.
When someone like
Jerry finally gets around to calling me, it is usually with a note of
desperation. It was unusual for Jerry’s bank to make aircraft loans, but
this particular loan had been made as a favor to his own friend. This
friend, whom I’ll call “Skip”, had taken the airplane to Mexico, which
was expressly forbidden by the loan agreement, and now Skip was refusing
to return the aircraft, and was missing payments. To top it all off, he
had allowed the aircraft insurance to lapse. In addition to being
betrayed by a supposed friend, Jerry was about to have some serious
explaining to do about a $100,000.00 loan that was behind on payments,
and the collateral for that loan, which was completely out of reach in a
foreign country. After listening to Jerry’s tale of woe, I started
feeling a little desperate myself. I wanted to help, but having never
even attempted to repossess an aircraft outside the U.S., I didn’t know
what I should tell him. Nevertheless, I didn’t want disappoint this good
customer (or maybe it was my ego that came to the rescue), so I agreed
to make the attempt.
The main thing you
need to know about repossessing an airplane is that it’s a lot different
from repossessing a car. Cars are easier to hide, but on the other hand
you can’t just have an airplane key made and then surreptitiously jump
into the plane and fly it away. Taking to the air in a plane whose
condition and airworthiness are unknown is extremely dangerous, and does
not lend itself to having a long flying career. Nor can you back a tow
truck up to the plane and tow it down city streets to your storage yard.
Moving an airplane on city streets is usually illegal, and impractical
anyway, if you remember that, with wingspan, your vehicle is 35 to 40
feet wide. No, repossessing a plane requires a more “creative” approach.
And keep in mind, these specialized problems would all be true if the
plane were at the closest airport to my house; now I’d just agreed to
try and grapple with them in a foreign country!
In my experience,
Mexico is a haven for lost vehicles - lost from the bank’s eyes, that
is. Cars, boats, trailers, RV’s - you name it, it has disappeared in
Mexico. And make no mistake - Mexico is a big country. I ponder this as
I finally leave my office and walk out into the late afternoon sunlight.
How am I going to find this small twin engine airplane, without having
the slightest idea of where to look? Or maybe the question should be,
“How will I get out of this job without making a complete fool of
myself?” Another unpleasant thought was that of committing some legal
blunder while trying to secure the plane, and ending up in jail. In jail
in Mexico, that is, a couple of thousand miles from home.
The next morning I
was still wishfully thinking the whole thing would get called off. Maybe
Skip would call the bank, have a change of heart, and turn over the
plane. Sometimes when a lender discovers that a particular repossession
will be more trouble than it’s worth, they will make a more forceful (or
more attractive) offer and ultimately sort things out with the debtor.
But this was not to be. The fax machine happily churned out page after
page of paperwork from the bank: evidence that they had the right to the
aircraft, some legal necessities, and other information, but all
screaming the same thing at me: “What had I gotten myself into?” Looking
over the papers, I was struck by how little information there actually
was. Some social security numbers, last known USA address and last known
business address. The only current and apparently useful scrap of
information was a business name that Skip was allegedly using in Mexico.
“Orion Air” - not a very Hispanic sounding name, so probably our
American disappearing act. Among other pieces of information Jerry
couldn’t provide me was what business they were using the aircraft for.
The bank didn’t even know what the “tail number” was (this is the
aircraft registration number visible on the tail section of every
aircraft). Fortunately, I did at least have the plane’s serial number.
The last known USA
address was probably not going to be much help, but still, to be
thorough, I went through the motions of all the basic tracing
techniques. I checked for other residents at the same address, and also
checked all the addresses around the target address. Sometimes former
neighbors can tell you a lot about someone who has disappeared, but not
in this case. I was actually able to get a few of those neighbors to
talk to me on the phone, but no one could tell me much. So I stared at
my pile of useless information, trying to think of the next step.
After about an hour,
the phone rang. It was Jerry, and thankfully he wasn’t already asking if
I had picked up the aircraft yet. Also thankfully, he had some
additional information to pass on. It seems that Skip had once called in
to let the bank know what his new mailing address would be. The address
itself was a Mexican post office box, so it would probably not be
anywhere near where the airplane was hiding out, but at least we had the
name of a city to work with. I re-aimed my basic search tools at this
city, and lo and behold, came up with…nothing. No record of any company
with “Orion” in the name at all. No record of Skip’s name anywhere in
Mexico. Skip had covered his tracks well, and he probably figured a PO
box address was safe enough, because we wouldn’t be able to trace him
with that information alone. I was beginning to think Skip might turn
out to be right about that!
I briefly considered
giving up, but as I wracked my brains for ideas, I realized I had one
more ace up my sleeve, and his name was Esteban.
Back in the days when
I ran a flight school, Esteban came up from Mexico to do all his flight
training (flight training is less expensive in the US than almost
anywhere else in the world). He was probably the most naturally gifted
pilot I ever trained, and he earned his way by becoming a licensed
airplane mechanic and working for my school. But that was years ago –
Esteban was now an airline captain for a major Mexican carrier. So I had
a Spanish-speaking friend in Mexico, with possible connections to the
Mexican aviation authorities. If I was going to pull this off, Esteban
was the key.
I could almost hear
him smiling on the other end of the phone line as I described my
predicament to him. Esteban’s English was never all that good, but I
could still hear a tone in his voice that suggested to me I was being
naïve. Of course he could find out something from the aviation
authorities. Not through official channels, naturally, but this being
Mexico, it would probably be easier than getting information from the
American FAA. All that was required was a nominal transfer of funds to
the right person. I don’t want to get in anyone trouble by calling it a
bribe, so I’ll just say it was an informal service fee, and well worth
the money.
As it turns out, the
airplane had to have entered the country on a flight plan, whether or
not it used US air traffic control services. And there had to be a
record of the pilot, presumably Skip, clearing customs at the same
airport where the plane was landed. Customs records, you say? Another
informal service fee. Within a few days, Esteban called me back to
report they had matched up a flight plan with the tail number I was
looking for, and a name with a customs record. We had zeroed in on the
airport, and it was an airport within a reasonable distance to the
mailing address my client had provided. With Esteban as my interpreter,
I placed several conference calls not only to the authorities at that
airport, but also all of the aviation-related businesses there. From one
of said businesses we learned that our wayward plane had indeed bought
fuel at the airport. Getting closer! But nobody there had rented a
parking space or hangar to the plane, and the more people at the airport
I talked to, the more it seemed clear the plane was no longer there.
Probably our friend Skip had entered the country at one airport, cleared
customs, gassed up, and disappeared to some other airport in the
country. So close, yet still so far.
I was re-energized by
my near-success, though, and the ideas started flowing. I got ahold of
some aviation charts and drew a 50-mile radius circle around the
approximate location of the mailing address. There were numerous
airports charted within the circle I drew. We had already ruled one of
them out. So, Esteban and I could systematically call everyone at every
airport and eventually, maybe, have some luck. But then I had to ask
myself, if I were making even a half-hearted effort to hide an airplane,
what kind of airport would I choose? They say that to catch a crook you
have to think like a crook, so on instinct alone I decided to try a
medium-small airport with no control tower, about halfway out from the
center of the circle.
At this point Esteban
cautioned that we should have a plan in place to secure the airplane if
we should happen to find it. If someone was renting a parking space to
our debtor, that person might well tip off Skip that he’d been found,
and the plane could get moved before it could be secured. Esteban
suggested that he could arrange ahead of time to get the airplane
swiftly “held” (whatever that meant, I didn’t want to know) once we
found it. He would do this with assistance from unnamed Mexican aviation
authorities - another informal service fee!
My instincts turned
out to be good, or more likely I just got really lucky. Approximately
the fourth or fifth call we placed was to an airplane service business
at the airport I’d selected, and we hit the jackpot. The plane was
parked in plain sight, in a space that the service company had rented to
“an American”. Esteban followed up with a call to his contact, and,
right on cue, the airplane was taken in for some “involuntary”
maintenance. That is to say, an informal service fee occurred, and the
folks at the airport moved the plane into the back of their large
maintenance hangar, blocked it in by parking several other airplanes in
front of it, kept an eye on it by day, and locked the large, heavy
hangar doors at night.
Mission accomplished!
Or to put it another
way, it was all over except for the shouting. And it was Skip doing the
shouting. With his airplane out of reach, we had finally caught the
attention of our wayward debtor. It turns out he was using the plane for
some sort of charter operation, and now he had paying customers who were
stranded! In my business you learn to listen quietly while people blame
you for all the mistakes that they themselves have made. So now I had
Skip on the phone, telling me how it’s my fault his passengers are
stranded, and how he’s just trying to run a business, and assorted other
nonsense. Finally he wears himself out, calms down, and realizes there
is only one way out of his problem (it happens that way just about every
time). But guys like this are always scheming, too, and Skip is no
exception. He offers to send one payment right away, and then resume the
normal payment schedule. Since he was *months* behind on payments, it’s
unlikely that any bank would have gone for that offer, and given what a
merry chase he’d led us all on, Jerry’s bank wasn’t in the mood for any
negotiation at all – they demanded full and immediate repayment. Skip
threw another fit when they rejected his offer – like I said before, you
get used to that sort of behavior.
Within a day or so,
and just as I was getting to work on the complicated arrangements for
bringing the airplane back across the border, came the surprise end to
the story. Skip paid off the loan! Somehow, he got a new loan at some
other bank and paid off my client. I was puzzled by how quickly he was
able to refinance, but you don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. We had
the airplane unpacked from the back of the hangar and put right back in
the parking space where we found it. It was really the perfect solution,
since everyone got their money, Skip got his plane, and we didn’t have
to deal with the hassle of bringing the airplane back. And I decided I
really didn’t want to know how Skip found a bank willing to lend him
more money. I just hope that bank doesn’t call me to get the airplane
again when Skip starts missing his payments.
Pete Conrad owns and
runs Judgement Recovery Company, a repossessor that operates primarily
in Washington State and Idaho. Prior to that, he taught flying and
founded Northway Aviation, a flight school still operating in Everett,
Washington. He resides in rural Washington State, and still holds an
Airline Transport Pilot’s license and his Flight Instructor
certification.
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